Lost theories
alright. because 1) i am a benevolent blog goddess whose only interest is in disseminating interesting info to my worshipful readers 2) i am hella bored at work and 3) after the Interminable Winter Break of Terrible Reruns i am starved for new, good tv that involves mechanical dinosaurs and possible religious conspiracy theories (which makes me think that dan brown should write his next book not on the freemasons in d.c. but on how opus dei is actually an organization set to bring hell on earth by releasing hordes of trained robot triceratops, therefore validating catholicism), i am going to start a thread on both the TV show Lost and the subject What The Hell Is Happening On Lost?
(apologies to any blog readers who don't watch Lost; but really, you should be apologizing to yourself, because you are missing out on some great TV. and did i mention mechanical dinosaurs?)
so, i feel i have a lot of credence and believability on the following ideas/theories because a) i spend an ungodly amount of time on the internet reading this kind of shit and b) many nights in the past week i have spent lying in bed, thinking of the tsunami victims, and my thoughts invariably turn to Lost, because, really, they are victims of, um, something that's stranded them on an island in southeast asia somewhere, and also i bet there's totally going to be a tsunami on the show for sweeps season. actually, looking around, i've found something that makes me think that TV execs do control the fate of the universe: tomorrow's episode of lost features "an extreme rising tide that threatens to engulf the beach and wash away the fuselage."
creepy.
anyway, what follows is theories that i've thought of, theories that friends have thought of, and theories that crackhead message board posters have thought of.
My theory is that they all died and the island is a kind of lost limbo for those spirits who can't let go of their earthly fears/desires/responsibilities/failures. They are caught somewhere between life and death, believing they are still alive, but creating their own complex, interlocking realities, where each individual will realize their dearest wishes and face their deepest, darkest fears. Their own strength or weakness of character will eventually decide their fate.
i haven't really seen any concrete evident of this theory on the show, for which i am glad, because it's incredibly lame.
"I think that there is something on the island that possesses dead people. The french lady told Said to watch his people to see if they change. I think that Locke died in the plane crash, and the thing possessing him has allowed him to walk. Notice how he felt drawn to the metal thing in the most recent episode. This thing is calling to him, and starting to take him over. I also think that Charlie (the musician right?) died and will start becoming evil as well."
so, basically, zombies! which should be enough to make any red-blooded american male watch the show, right? jack's dead-yet-walking-about father could also be a zombie. additionally, i read that kate et al will soon have to dig up the US marshal's grave to prove something or other, and i'm betting that he will not be in that hole in the ground. this theory also jives with what that woman was saying in one of the first episodes - she was the lady sitting on a rock overlooking the sea that jack had comforted while the plane was going down and her husband was in the bathroom. she feels strongly that her husband is still alive. yeah, in zombie form!
what's left to supplement this theory is how claire's Baby of Evil plays into the whole thing. is he the key to bring zombies back to life? the key to unlock a parallel dimension? the key to the eventual zombie takeover of the universe? will shannon and boone's possibly incestuous relationship result in an additional counter Baby of Good? (i know. ew.) or is claire's Baby of Evil ACTUALLY a Baby of Good? is ethan actually good? is jack really bad? is the show in fact the twighlight zone come back to haunt us? are we, the viewers, ACTUALLY LIVING IN AN EPISODE OF THE TWILIGHT ZONE? discuss.
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Do you think some people on the mainland are a part of the whole island operation? That psychic guy wanted Claire to be on this specific flight... coincidence? The whole thing has left me with a very deep distrust of all things australian.
yeah, that's a good possibility. that guy was definitely up to no good. what i didn't get is why claire wouldn't give up her baby to that loving couple in australia, but was happy to fly, 8 months pregnant, to LA to give up her baby on the whim of a weird palm-reader dude. she's flighty. and probably a zombie by now!
Quite possible. Plus - her best friend? An asian chick with an australian accent? That's much more of an affront to God's holy plan than the walking dead could ever be.
It was all a dream or they're all actually dead would be such a letdown. They're all undead...well that's an entirely different, and much more pleasing to my zombie inclinations. I still need to get around to bittorrenting the Said episode and the episode where Charlie almost dies (or does die, or dies again?), since definetly missing out a bit on the storyline right now. Can't wait for tomorrow night though.
If the shipwrecked were zombies, somebody's brains would be eaten; no brains have been eaten, ergo, these are not zombies.
I'm not so sure... according to Anya on BtVS, zombies don't eat brains "unless instructed by their zombie masters". I'd consider her a reliable source on the subject.
the only thing i'm currently fairly sure of is that ethan is probably good, because right now he seems extremely evil, and JJ abrams is all about the good/evil switcheroo. and zombies. always zombies.
Well, I don't think zombies became really brain obsessed until Return of the Living Dead*, so brain eating may not be a key criteria of the zombie diet. Earlier zombie movies seemed to focus more on general flesh consumption, and not so much on the sweet, sweet brrraaaaainnnnsss.
*How many times did I watch this movie in middle school? Way, way too many. Send... more... paramedics.
Well, I don't think zombies became really brain obsessed until Return of the Living Dead*, so brain eating may not be a key criteria of the zombie diet. Earlier zombie movies seemed to focus more on general flesh consumption, and not so much on the sweet, sweet brrraaaaainnnnsss.
You may have a point here, Drew, but let me submit that George Romero's canonical work, while not explicitly addressing brain-feastage, does not deny per se that it's an explicit term of zombiedom. I think he was forced to leave the question to later researchers, given his agenda (e.g., distinguish the zombie from other genera of undead, such as the vampire or the ghoul). I think that today it's well-proven by the literature that brain feastage is not a "choice" or preference but an essential quality of being a zombie. With all the revisionism that swirls around the zombie in today's highly political environment—consider the "viral" zombie—it's definitely a pertinent question.
Romero's early attempts at defining zombie behavior may have been somewhat flawed--as early research often is--which would help explain many of the problems with the early characterization of zombies. Romero's representation of zombie behavior established them as extremely slow moving and dimwitted, which makes one question how exactly they could ever be enough of them to present a threat to America's well-armed populace. Later research--which proved zombies to be far more mobile and and intelligent than previously thought--helps explain how such devestating zombie outbreaks could ocurr. Rather than a slow shambling mob, the later period zombies are capable of effectively pursuing their prey, using crude tools to gain access to their prey's hideouts, and even using subterfuge to summon more food to their current location. It definetly is possible that the zombie preference for human brains was not discovered until this time, which would explain the absence of brain fixation in his seminal works on the subject.
As for the so called viral zombies, I'm somewhat uncomfortable classifying them as zombies, since zombies are by definition members of the undead. While the virals do share the zombie affinity for human flesh, they are not technically dead, which has always been a primary trait of the zombie. For similar reasons, I would also not consider a person who believe themselves to be a zombie as one, or a group of people who behave in a manner similar to zombies as members of this particular categorization.
In any case, if any of the survivors had become a zombie, the consumption of human flesh--whether the focus was on the brains or not--would most likely have begun by now, which is something that ABC would most likely not show at 8pm. A more likely path of involvement for the dead--as has been stated before--would be the reanimation of a corpse by a dead soul or possession of a living person by a dead soul.
Since there's no new thread about it, did anyone else think that Wednesday's new episode of Lost was just shite? Kate's second backstory was crap, and the events in the current timeline--while they setup a few important things for down the line--were boring as well. Oh well, the teaser for next week still has me hooked though.
i agree. i might do a post about it today, if i've got time.
About my "Lost" theory, I think that when the plane crashed, it sunk all the way down to the lost city of Atlantis. I do not watch the show very often, but do try to stat up to date through my friends and internet sources. Anyways, I think that before any of the plane stuff happened, Atlantis suffered an epidemic that killed of the line of royal rulers and many others. In order to get their kingdom backi in order, they need a baby to begin a new line of royalty. The physic that made Claire get on the plane realy lives in Atlantis, and he saw that Claire's baby was the only baby that would be able to rule Atlantis. He then shared his seeings and he and Ethan were sent up to Earth to make sure that Claire and her unborn baby saftly get on the plane. The physic gets Claire on the plane, and Ethan makes sure that the plane lands in the right spot. Once they crash and sink, they land in a spot that the "Atlantians" attempted to turn into an "Earth-like haven". Because of their misunderstanding of Earth, polar-bears were put on the island, along with some other believeable animals. They then kidnapp Claire to get the baby. Because they have no use for the other people, they tell Ethan to kill them if he can, or drive them crazy enough to kill each other. The "thing" that they hear as well as the french lady are all created by the "Atlantians" to confuse, scare and threaten them. The "Atlantians" goal is to just get rid of them all because none besides the baby are wanted or welcome. I think it will end that Locke knew all along, but betrayed the "Atlantias" because he felt bad about killing them, so he secretly helped them, s othat the "Atlantians" had no choice but t oaccept them into their world.
I can't beleive none of you have thought about the possibility thats its aliens. let me give some reasons why i think its aliens.
- 1. the mystery numbers that were found on a transmition 16 or so years ago that the french lady changed. the numbers make weird things happen.
-2. the radio tower that was on the island before the shipwreck
-3. The weird bunker( Spaceship?) that has the numbers on it.
-4. Ethan not being on the plane in the first place and being extremely agile and strong
-5. Walts mysterious ability to make weird things happen (possibly a later connection with him and the numbers)
-6. the cable going into the ocean definatly spells out some sort of underground facility or spaceship
-7. the voices Saheed and Sawyer heard
-8. Saheed saying when he got back from the frech lady "were not alone" a common alien cliche.
-9. The dead bodies from 60 or so years ago...possible dead aliens or original inhabitants of the island.
-10. the polar bears and the compass..both impling a normally cold climate....(aliens changed the climate to fit there liking)
thats about it but i would say that aliens are a BIG possibility.
but who really knows all we can do is wait. And ...unfortuantly because of its success we probably wont find out the full story for another 2 or 3 seasons. oh well more to watch and hypothesis about than.
How have none of you dumb fucks thought that maybe there isnt a theory.. you know, it is possible that they are just stranded on an island and that there arnt any goddamned supernatural forces.
umm, id appreciate if you didn't use such fowl language, I'm only 12
hi i live in germany and we only had the possibilty to see the first three episodes of the first season yet.in the last episode there was a guy wearing a black suit.could anyone please tell me who he is?and what he is doing there?
The man in the suit is Jack's father. He plays a significant role in flashbacks in various other episodes this season. There is also an episode devoted to tracking him down on the island. Whether his presence and/or Jack's perception of him on the island was supernatural or just a hallucination has not yet been revealed.
You might want to google this site for "bittorrent tv" -- you can download the episodes you haven't seen quite easily off of the internet.
At first, I thought of Lock as some messiah figure, helping people with their personal problems and all, but I've changed that theory.
Now, I'm thinking that Lock has some kind of connection with whatever is in the container. Whatever it is (spirits, aliens, interdimensional beings, psychic sociopaths, sentient blob, etc...), it is obviously directing Lock - the dream of the plane and Boon being injured, for example. I believe that "it" was directing him.
Further, I somehow think that Boon was a type of sacrifice. I believe that Lock knew Boon was going to be seriously injured, and might even die. But I think that "it", having given him back the capability to walk, began withdrawing that gift, and needed a sacrifice.. For what? Who knows? To have Lock prove some type of devotion? I dunno.
I'm also thinking that Lock is similar to Frodo in LOTR, in that, he is slowly being taken over. So that "it" can engage him in assisting in its release...
Jason said: "Further, I somehow think that Boon was a type of sacrifice. I believe that Lock knew Boon was going to be seriously injured, and might even die. But I think that "it", having given him back the capability to walk, began withdrawing that gift, and needed a sacrifice.. For what? Who knows? To have Lock prove some type of devotion? I dunno."
Good point! Remember that Lock said that you had to give something to the island before you could take from it...your Boone-sacrifice theory is a good one! And now that Boone's dead, Lock is walking just fine again.
Perhaps the island is an alien spaceship that crashed landed many of years ago, and turned into an island. Like if you leave a car in the back woods, it eventually becomes part of the land, stuff grows on it. the strange animals could be attributed to the alien collection of earth stuff, and the electro magnetic forces send out signals (the repetitive numbers) that attract new things for the aliens to collect. and study. and screw up compasses. hmm...now i think it sounds too far fetched...
"Quite possible. Plus - her best friend? An asian chick with an australian accent? That's much more of an affront to God's holy plan than the walking dead could ever be.
Posted by: jeff on January 4, 2005 01:50 PM "
There isn't anything wrong/strange/affornting about an Asian chick with an aussie accent...incase you haven't realised, its called multiculturalism and its quite popular in this day and age. I'm an Indian girl living in sydney and I have an Australian accent....(Wow, who could've imagined?) I mean, Aren't ALL indians supposed to have a heavy accent like Apu from the Simpsons? That's what I see everytime an Indian is on an American TV show...*shakes head* The UK and Australia are good like that, because they show the general population as citizens...not stereotypes.
If we're all supposed to have an accent of the place we were born/our parents or grandparents are from - then all caucasion Australians would have a british accent. There wouldn't even BE an Aussie accent..
So Jeff, get with it...its not the 1700s anymore...
oh, don't worry about Jeff. He's just kidding. He goes out with a NY-born girl of asian descent, in fact, so I think he's probably aware that not all asians have accents (although we do love the Simpsons).
Hi, i'm in the UK n ive only seen the first 3 episodes, but i was watching behind - the - scenes n i saw that sum1 had been hung, this isn't charlie is it? He can't die - he cracks me up. Pls tell me it isnt charlie! lol
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